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Stader is bringing illiquid Staking, not liquid staking. Our Hbar will be unstakable until 3 months. It's very weird & risky thing imo. and especially, Stader is working vice versa of their goal of Liquid Staking in Hbar's case.

I also don't understand how Stader Labs plans on delivering a return. My understanding is that they offer a platform where you can manage staking across several different blockchains. Maybe other projects offer higher percentage returns, but as of now there is no underlying return on HBAR so what return can they offer unless it comes from some other source? Are stakers getting a return on their overall pool across all blockchains and if so on what basis if the hbar staker does not hold other staked assets? And even when Hedera proxy staking is in place, all indications are that it will be minimal. How do they return more than the basic proxy staking rate? Operational consensus nodes will get a bigger percentage, but no announcement has been made to allow non-council nodes (although non-permissioned nodes remain a long term possibility). It seems to me, at best, that staking to Stader in return for HBARX is functionally a loan or deposit in HBAR to Stader to create some sort of investment/mutual fund with hbarx as shares. The fund might earn returns that will be reflected in interest on Hbarx deposits....but then what is the investment strategy? What is the auditing? They talk about a technical audit, that's fine, but what is needed is a financial audit. If the HBAR Foundation gave them a grant they must have done some due diligence, but I don't understand it. Yamgo offered some staking rewards and my understanding was that they were paid out from Adsdax profits. What source of profit does Stader Labs have?

Crypto Consciousness
I also don't understand how Stader Labs plans on d...

Hbar Foundation is going to bear rewards for 1 year may be. Until then, Stader needs to create more utilities for HbarX & give rewards to Hbar stakers accordingly. Afaik

Utkarsh | Wealth Ventures
Hbar Foundation is going to bear rewards for 1 yea...

I heard somewhere that 1 year but it may change. Out of the technical audits, imho Hbar Foundation or Hedera team should do a separate audit from Hedera side, coz community's precious hbars will be at stake.

Crypto Consciousness
What utility do they propose for HbarX?

lending on DeFi protocols, staking, liquid staking & many more things

Utkarsh | Wealth Ventures
lending on DeFi protocols, staking, liquid staking...

So its comes back to being a mutual fund. Lending in DeFi protocols is investment not staking....and that makes HBARX a security and investors (stakers) should demand the same transparency that is demanded of regulated investment funds.

Crypto Consciousness
So its comes back to being a mutual fund. Lending ...

Yes, its very complicated thing. Its like creating a whole ecosystem for HbarX

Utkarsh | Wealth Ventures
Yes, its very complicated thing. Its like creating...

Do they have a track record? Have they done this successfully with other tokens? Eg Terra Luna?

Crypto Consciousness
Do they have a track record? Have they done this s...

Thay have launched on Luna 4 months back but i don't think so they could created a different ecosystem for LunaX

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