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Hello everyone. is it bad for privacy if you connect

to a daemon via VPN instead of tor network? who can see your IP when you are connected to a daemon?

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your vpn provider can see your traffic

If you are going to use a VPN, make sure it is one you trust, I would recommend Mullvad

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Nik
your vpn provider can see your traffic

can the vpn know about my monero transactions? or any other entity like the daemon?

Sean Quentin Quentin
can the vpn know about my monero transactions? or ...

They can know what you are sending to remote node, they can’t see your incoming txs only outgoing txs you broadcast through them

Nik
They can know what you are sending to remote node,...

The ISP/VPN can only see that there's communication between one's device and the monero network (via remote node, in this case). They can see data is being sent, but not its contents. That would assume transactional data is in clear text, but it's not. They can't see transactional data as it's encrypted at the protocol level.


The ISP/VPN can only see that there's communicatio...

Only if they are connected via ssl, many public remote nodes are not

Nik
Only if they are connected via ssl, many public re...

Yeah, but they see the random encrypted data, but they do not have the keys to decrypt transaction data. Encryption is done via the protocol. SSL will hide the already encrypted data, making it harder to determine you're using monero. It's kind of like regular use. If I create a non-secure web page and put encrypted data on it, the ISP can see the page and also see that there's encrypted data on it, but they don't know the contents beyond that. Adding SSL to that, they don't know don't know anything beyond the IP address now.


Yeah, but they see the random encrypted data, but ...

They can see X transaction has been send from you to remote node, if they are not connected to a remote node with ssl

Nik
They can see X transaction has been send from you ...

With that, you're saying this data is in clear text? The Monero network does not* encrypt this at the protocol level?


With that, you're saying this data is in clear tex...

It’s not unless you are connected to nodes with ssl

Nik
It’s not unless you are connected to nodes with ss...

So, Ring Sigs and Ring CTs are disregarded?


So, Ring Sigs and Ring CTs are disregarded?

They just know you sent X transaction, not the transaction details like sender receiver or amount

Nik
They just know you sent X transaction, not the tra...

Okay, that's what I was going at as well.

Nik
They just know you sent X transaction, not the tra...

so over a non-ssl remote node the tx id is in clear text but the receiver address and amount isn't? 🤔 how does that work?

Dee Bag
so over a non-ssl remote node the tx id is in cle...

https://masteringmonero.com/book/Mastering%20Monero%20First%20Edition%20by%20SerHack%20and%20Monero%20Community.pdf

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