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Aaron, do you understand the point I’m trying to make?

It’s not about block one…it’s the message the network is sending that’s highly problematic

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The message is up to the community to shape, if we let Consensys decide what that message it, then that's our own fault. Whatever is decided will be the decision of 15/21 BPs ruling on intent of code is law. It's not emotional. It's a decision based on interpreted facts.

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The message that it sent a few months back, where it changed 100's of accounts keys to enforce "intent of code is law"? This is the same situation.

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Aaron Cox (jesta) — Greymass
The message that it sent a few months back, where ...

If anyone is wondering how effed the EOS brand is, think about how that happened and not even coindesk wrote about it.

Trimbot
No it’s not, and you know that

I'm not sure, I haven't decided. It's pretty black and white that the actions from the vault hack were because "tokens were taken that weren't meant to be by the intent of the contract", and this situation is the same in that "these tokens are being taken but not for the intent they were given".

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Aaron Cox (jesta) — Greymass
I'm not sure, I haven't decided. It's pretty blac...

Aaron, what language do you have to show B1 has failed to meet a condition?

Aaron Cox (jesta) — Greymass
I'm not sure, I haven't decided. It's pretty blac...

the hack is a different story, those were stolen keys from users accounts

Aaron Cox (jesta) — Greymass
I'm not sure, I haven't decided. It's pretty blac...

This is a world without legal repercussions of bad inter-user actions. It’s the Wild West, self policing. You can’t go after people easily. So what the network did was show that it’s at the whims of a few humans at the top.

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Aaron Cox (jesta) — Greymass
I enjoy good debates, which is why I'm active on t...

Me as well Aaron. And I appreciate your willingness to engage, even though I disagree with you

Being able to debate while remaining civil and respectful is definitely something I'd love to see more around here, without the pitchforks 🙏

That's where the whole situation gets screwy, there were no predefined conditions to that stake, except the conversations and promises made around the time of the genesis of the blockchain. I was there and witnessed those conversations, and my impression during those times was that B1 was given 10% of the token supply to continue to deliver public goods for use in EOS/EOSIO. That effort largely stopped earlier this year when the vast majority of the B1 team quit/was fired/whatever happened, and all resources of B1 were moved to non-public goods such as Bullish/Voice.

En Eff Tee
The terms of b1 stake was community-defined

Isn't that B1s fault now? We've been at a legal loss with them outside of blockchain world, now they're in ours with our judges, and we know what they said.

Mo Z. D.S.
Isn't that B1s fault now? We've been at a legal lo...

I don’t support mob justice. I just want to say the truth and then move on

En Eff Tee
I don’t support mob justice. I just want to say th...

It's not. We're not going to do anything. The majority of the blockchain will decide which is how DPOS works along with intent of code is law.

You say this, but there are more active EOSIO chains that operate with far greater god mode powers than EOS 😅 I think this is a red herring.

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