Imagine how many people give their word in that sense

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Imagine how many people give their word in that sense

in religious or psuedo-religious contexts… like the state 😅

Anyone else sign that thing about giving your word to respond to a draft? By the time you have to make good on that word, you’re a very different person… but they’ll use the same moral arguments to get you to comply and if that doesn’t work, they’ll use that moral argument to justify what pretty much amounts to violence/slavery.

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24.12.2022

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Sahid Miller Автор вопроса

Dustin 🪐
There's a big difference between signing something...

It doesn’t necessarily need to be a lie. It can just be circumstance. More often than not it is, imo

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Sahid Miller Автор вопроса

Dustin 🪐
There's a big difference between signing something...

That’s pretty amazing you got to that conclusion so quickly. Yeah, I don’t think anyone should perform a service without taking collateral first just like they would a loan.

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Dustin 🪐

Sahid Miller
That’s pretty amazing you got to that conclusion s...

OK, I'm still confused about loans and interest. Best I can tell, you are saying interest charged on money you borrow is your property and you don't have to pay it, but you're also saying a loan would require collateral. If a loan has collateral and an added interest charge, wouldn't you have to pay the interest to get the collateral back? Are you saying you would only pay interest if forced to via collateral but the person forcing you to would be in the wrong even though you agreed to it to get the loan?

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Sahid Miller Автор вопроса

Dustin 🪐
OK, I'm still confused about loans and interest. ...

Yeah, exactly. Not me personally though, I don’t participate in the fiat system because the whole thing is based on this interest scheme. If I had to eat though, I’m saying there’s nothing wrong with this. What happens in response is usually actually wrong imo

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Dustin 🪐

Sahid Miller
Yeah, exactly. Not me personally though, I don’t p...

Fiat isn't necessary for the concepts, though. Crypto or tools can be borrowed, rent can be charged for tools, interest is just rent for money. Nothing wrong with what if you had to eat? I actually almost used that example earlier. If you mean, "I need money to eat and nobody will loan it for free so I have to agree to pay interest even though I don't believe in interest and won't be paying it," I can't understand how you can think agreeing to pay it when you know you don't intend to wouldn't be a lie. ETA: nothing currently posted here says you believe that, why I didn't say it previously.

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Sahid Miller Автор вопроса

Dustin 🪐
Fiat isn't necessary for the concepts, though. Cr...

That’s circumstance imo

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Dustin 🪐 · Accepted Answer

There's a big difference between signing something under any sort of duress/coercion (such as a legal obligation) and signing something in exchange for a service. As far as I can tell based on your answer, it sounds to me like you are basically saying "it's ok for me to lie and say I will pay interest when I won't because you shouldn't ask me for interest anyway." If that is accurate, my problem is with the lying part; you could borrow from someone who doesn't ask for interest, or you could not borrow to begin with, and no lie would be necessary. This is why my question was specifically about the moral obligation of your word. From another lens, considering that service isn't property (and a loan could be viewed as a service): Why would anyone pre-pay for a service in an environment where the promise to pay for it wasn't morally obligating, and conversely, why would anyone provide a service ahead of pay in an environment where the promise to pay afterwards wasn't morally obligating?

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