It'S already clear. A self-professed "Ancap" who seeks a job

living on taxes (extorted funds). One helluva drug.... a "great game"? Ugh.

I'll stop commenting now. Don't wanna get off topic, but at almost 40 now I'm seeing the cycle of political duping just repeat over and over and over across the years. Wish the world was more full of real voluntaryists and ancaps and not obvious plants like Milei, and people participating in politics. He's not gonna do shit for BCH, either. Just give actual ancaps a bad rep, by design. With his cloned dogs and alleged three time resurrection hallucinations.

He's the "flat earth" psyop but for voluntaryism. Co-opt.

The benchmark is does he get rid of crypto tax and allows private cities and communities. Ofc worst case scenario is he poisons the term anarcho capitalism for all eternity.

Completely private cities (like with private firefighters and maybe even police) have been tried unfortunately and they don't work. Human factor is the hardest. Things go haywire due to corruption and other human weaknesses. I think if anybody is serious about libertarian principles, they have to be implemented very gradually so common people have the time to adjust and learn.

That guy looks very radical, which means he will not implement things gradually but quickly, drastically; Which means it will end up in a disaster. This gives some credence to the theory that he is an obvious plant. Can't wait to see his first decisions when he takes the position. I would love 💛 to be proven wrong, actually.

100% this. I’m convinced that utopia implemented in a day would be hell. It’s why I’m not a libertarian, but do agree with the destination. It takes a lot of cultural change to have it work as imagined though, imo, and until then i believe we should minimise the state as much as possible and increase the free market and competition.

And give the entire free movement a bad name.

Me too. 👍

and my axe!

https://www.google.com/search?q=greek+meaning+of+utopia

Most people crave hierarchical social structure (as in somebody being on top of them) and following others.

I don't mind someone being on top of me.

I am sure you wouldn't mind a cute pussy (being a cat yourself)

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Most folks are willing to assent to hierarchical structure voluntarily and consensually when it benefits them. This shouldn’t be conflated with non-consensual rule by violent force which is what all current governments are. And they are expressly designed to only and exclusively amass violent power. So folks thinking gradual change can happen via these intentionally dysfunctional mechanisms is like thinking orange juice can “gradually” be gotten from a rock.

Oh, I see. I "get" you. I was like you about 15 years ago. Then I improved A LOT at observation and started noticing patterns. Like this and this. Then I noticed that humans move in identical way. Like fish, birds, antelopes and wolves. But on a different scale. And the way to facilitate movement is a little different (other than actual walking in unison, which only happens during war, protests and panic). Also unlike fish or birds but like wolves, there is a hierarchy, so alpha makes the deciding moves and the rest follows, most of the time, unless there is no alpha. This is why most humans (95%+) do not only assent to hierarchical structure when it suits/benefits them. They ALWAYS do that.

But wait, there is more. What makes humans different (and more advanced) is that they can follow multiple alphas, depending on the place they currently occupy. Like, - when in church they follow the priest, - when on the street, they follow policeman, - when in the hospital, they follow the doctor, - when at home, they follow father/mother/neighbour/other family member

Humans consciously or subconsciously crave following, exactly as every other animal on this planet. Having most or all people follow reason and "freedom" like you claim is a pipe dream. Not going to happen neither in this generation or 2 next generations, most probably. It's an evolutionary basic instinct, like needing to sleep, eat or shit. Maybe if you take 15 years more, you will come to observe and understand this yourself. Right now you are still in the forest.

• I didn’t say change would happen that fast or that people need to “follow freedom” • I pointed out that using expressly anti-freedom mechanisms will never achieve freedom, gradually or otherwise • Using the old “I used to be naive like you” trope is hilarious. If humans need to be violently forced into hierarchies as you imply, then there’s no point in this debate, or promoting full economic freedom.

> Using the old “I used to be naive like you” trope is hilarious. It's not hilarious if it is the truth > If humans need to be violently forced into hierarchies as you imply I said no such thing. The reverse happens, actually. When you separate any number of humans larger than 1 from the herd, fly them over the ocean and put them on a deserted island, they will create some kind of hierarchy automatically. It's in the DNA. Nearly all things on this planet organize in some kind of hierarchy (or at least a synchronized group - for simpler organisms).

I am also not saying that creating some kind of system based on logic, reason and decentralized decision making is impossible. It probably became possible with the advent of personal computing and the Internet. But majority of the population will not just "insta-switch" into such a system, their primitive survival instincts are too strong. Even if such person normally behaves rationally, any time fear or doubt sets in, base instincts take over. I think the best we can hope for in this generation is getting about 5-15% of the population to convert to self-custody their money and some other libertarian principles. The rest will just follow these "alphas" without thinking. It will still be a monumental historical change that will turn the world upside down.

In my original comment I noted humans naturally assent to hierarchies that benefit them, and then proceeded to differentiate hierarchies implemented violently from consensual ones. Not sure who you are arguing with. It’s like you’re talking to someone else. I never said such a shift would be instant. I pointed out one cannot use the state to bring out this change for economic freedom, gradually or otherwise. Re-read my rock/orange juice comment.

You said originally: > Most folks are willing to assent to hierarchical structure voluntarily and consensually when it benefits them. This shouldn’t be conflated with non-consensual rule by violent force which is what all current governments are. And I said "it's all the same". The rule of force is only created because this is what humans crave subconsciously. If you literally take 10 random people and put them on a deserted island, they will create a hierarchical structure (a mini-government) on their own. And such government CAN end up to be ruled by force. Humans will agree to that. Democracy is also possible to happen if the people you take be educated, but still there will be a guy (or a committee) in charge.

Lol you gotta be a troll.

LOL