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It is NOT about the value TODAY AGIX holders LOSE 57%

of ASI tokens.

Do you get it?

Everyone expects ASI to fly.

I do.

I want to have as much ASI as possible.

Why should I give up 57% of it via a stinky 0.43:1 ratio?

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If you want to have a higher ratio but others are automatically disadvantaged does not work

Why should you get more then you deserve 🤣🤣🤣

Crypto4Life
Why should you get more then you deserve 🤣🤣🤣

The brother wants to make money glitch like in gta

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Crypto4Life
Why should you get more then you deserve 🤣🤣🤣

Why should I be bullied to buy re-brandes FET (ASI) ?

Justin Glass
I would ask the same of the Fetch community

We get 1:1 the value in $/€ like you

Andrey
Why should I be bullied to buy re-brandes FET (ASI...

You should be happy to switch to such a great chain

Andrey
Why should I be bullied to buy re-brandes FET (ASI...

You can sell any move on if you are not happy with the current situation

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Lukas
We get 1:1 the value in $/€ like you

It isn’t about the present dollar value. I can sell today and get the same result. The question is the future potential. And now and am back seated with a non equal share. Looking at MC alone over a 15 day window is a terrible way to value.

Crypto4Life
You can sell any move on if you are not happy with...

youre welcome to join the conversation on singularitynet community side but kindly behave a bit

Andrey
I would be But not at 0.43:1 ratio

mate you will have less coins but at a higher market price so you won't lose out

Justin Glass
It isn’t about the present dollar value. I can sel...

Okay, but how do you want to do it differently?

Crypto4Life
Why should you get more then you deserve 🤣🤣🤣

Who are you talking to about deserving? SNet ecosystem is where the lions share of the AI tech-stack value is. It's not even close

H m
Who are you talking to about deserving? SNet ecos...

That’s just your opinion. No free money for you guys

Lukas
Okay, but how do you want to do it differently?

Renegotiate the pretend "locked" values to 1:1 agix to asi

H m
Renegotiate the pretend "locked" values to 1:1 agi...

That will happen in your dream 🙃🙃

Andrey
I would be But not at 0.43:1 ratio

In the beginning i did also not agree but after some deep thinking i asked myself, why its not fair? We get exactly the same amount of money and fet also and ocean also. Fetch will get more inflation because agix has still inflation to come the coming years. So for us its quite an honest deal? Or why think you its not?

Crypto4Life
That’s just your opinion. No free money for you gu...

No, hypercycle is objective reality. Nunet is objective reality. Sdao is objective reality

Lukas
Okay, but how do you want to do it differently?

Longer look period. Perhaps 18 month. And consider Enterprise Value.

H m
Renegotiate the pretend "locked" values to 1:1 agi...

Hahaaha nice joke the brother then makes free money and we automatically lose money

H m
Renegotiate the pretend "locked" values to 1:1 agi...

Then you will double you money overnight. Who is going to pay this?

Leviii
Then you will double you money overnight. Who is g...

No, FET will gain access to snet ecosystem components which it needsnto compete. Snet does not need fet

H m
No, FET will gain access to snet ecosystem compone...

Partly agree with that. Think for yourself a few minutes. Why do you think Ben wants this?

Lukas
Hahaaha nice joke the brother then makes free mone...

No In this case fet should wait till agix has the same ratio…also 0.8 would be acceptable. But not a 0.43

Leviii
Then you will double you money overnight. Who is g...

And transient market pumps are an absurd way to assess. Based the FET community's apparent lack of ability to see that it gains more out of this joining (which it's leadersndo see) makes this look as a lost cause

Leviii
Partly agree with that. Think for yourself a few m...

Because he has a lot of hypc and ntx…maybe this 2 get pushed by that.

H m
And transient market pumps are an absurd way to as...

Why are you so arrogant to think you are something better you have a sex robot that's it We are supported by bosch, telekom, gaia x and catena

Love Ai
Because he has a lot of hypc and ntx…maybe this 2 ...

Ben is trully not after money. Please read all his books. He is putting his whole life in this

H m
No, FET will gain access to snet ecosystem compone...

Everyone need snet, snet is the king🙃🙃🙃

Love Ai
No In this case fet should wait till agix has the ...

Ok so your idea, no merge wait for agix to do x2 then we merge ? You know you can’t control the market ? Maybe fet will do x4 by then and we will be asking for 1:0.2 by then

Peter E | @peter_ce - always verify username
can you stop the trolling? thanks

Why you let the people speak nonsense about your partner like others are so bad they need snet etc.

Leviii
Ben is trully not after money. Please read all his...

Great. But we can’t all be Ben. Some of us need to consider the financial implications of a bad conversion rate negotiation.

Khaled Awnen
Ok so your idea, no merge wait for agix to do x2 t...

Doesn‘t matter. I want agix to continue with 2.0…But a merge with fairer ratio would be acceptable

Peter E | @peter_ce - always verify username
cmon we're not in your groups doing the same

In fetch group nobody talking shit about Agix. That’s show the level of this channel

Justin Glass
Great. But we can’t all be Ben. Some of us need to...

Still i think together we can be greater then one of us alone. I think personly Ben is worried that alone it takes him to long to scale hyperon up as he does not have the compute and not have the funds and not have the ai platform like fetch ai with agents that can learn hyperon from very quickly. His agi framework need compute and interactions to learn. I personally think that ben thinks this is the fastest way to do this and he has the most change to dont get over run by big tech. As big tech is going so fast if it takes him to long big tech will develop agi and comes into the S curve into ASI

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Leviii
In the beginning i did also not agree but after so...

There is a great chance if AGIX was trading on CB it would be about $3 per token. It is not an apples to apples comparison. It is one company's better marketing that puts it into a more favorable situation to negotiate a deal. SingularityNet is not inferior in any way to Fetch. So just because we're traded at a 57% discount CURRENTLY does not mean they have to make a deal today.

Andrey
There is a great chance if AGIX was trading on CB ...

True but it isn't. Can't put prices on hypotheticals

Andrey
There is a great chance if AGIX was trading on CB ...

I agree with that. Snet should make the hyperon alpha and then do the deal

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Uncle Pecos
True but it isn't. Can't put prices on hypothetica...

I am not saying it should be. What I'm saying is that if it's not in your favor, don't make a deal

Leviii
I agree with that. Snet should make the hyperon al...

How can there be a deal when there was no vote before

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Love Ai
How can there be a deal when there was no vote bef...

Exactly, they're talking about it as if it's a done deal.

Andrey
I am not saying it should be. What I'm saying is t...

Sometimes you have to look at what’s best for the company to grow and not what is best strictly based on short term gains

Andrey
There is a great chance if AGIX was trading on CB ...

100%. Fetch invested in the network affect with the exchange listings and benefits from the start of this cycle. SN did not and continued to invest in technology. The conversion ratio devalues SN technology and rewards Fetch exchange listings. Terrible timing. Terrible deal.

Mykonos Blue
Sometimes you have to look at what’s best for the ...

True. But then at the end you have to represent best interests.

Mykonos Blue
Sometimes you have to look at what’s best for the ...

False choice. Both aspects are perfectly compatible with renegotiating a fair deal. Let's stop pretending that thongs cannot be negotiated prior to a rejection vote.

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Mykonos Blue
Sometimes you have to look at what’s best for the ...

Depending on the size of your bag, when / if ASI is trading at let's say $1,000 per token, you will remember this stinky deal and wished it was a 1:1 ratio. I'm not thinking short-term. I'm thinking long very long term

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Crypto4Life
In fetch group nobody talking shit about Agix. Tha...

That's laughable since I've read the fet chats and I'm pretty sure Ben's been called just about everything

Peter E | @peter_ce - always verify username
youre welcome to join the conversation on singular...

Will a snapshot be taken for the distribution of the new ASI token? Or was it already taken for current holders?

Leviii
In the beginning i did also not agree but after so...

But we give away 2/3 of our voting power. Once again: FIAT does not matter, it is worthless anyway.

Jumid
But we give away 2/3 of our voting power. Once aga...

works both ways right, we'd also gain voting power on new topics

Peter E | @peter_ce - always verify username
works both ways right, we'd also gain voting power...

The topic is already set. Decentraliced, beneficial AI for everyone. And i do not see how to secure the topic, with giving away our voting power.

You definitely don’t get it. It’s important that everyone understand that point : no one will lose any money during the merge (perhaps just a few percent due to arbitrage between tokens) Let me explain. You talk about 57% depreciation because 1 AGIX = 0.43 ASI Then yes, we will have 57% less token. BUT The price of ASI will be 1/0.43= 2.32 higher than the price of AGIX (taken at the date of the snapshot). Make the math : 0.43 x 2.32 = ??? Ok hope you get it. Just imagine how inconceivable it would be for Singularitynet teams to accept a deal where all tokens holder lose 57% of their value (USD) because of the deal. I mean, ask yourself a second , come on …

Remember you are free to sell your AGIX and buy FET today. They way you will get the 1:1 but will be in the same position as if you had just held your AGIX

Scott
Remember you are free to sell your AGIX and buy FE...

because they chose at bad date to set the ratio. they could have picked any date but chose a date AFTER fetch massively outperformed agix and ocean instead of before. if they didnt the ratio would be different.

crypto4always Biesmans
because they chose at bad date to set the ratio. t...

Yeah bad day, they should’ve done it today instead of Monday so agix get 0.42 instead of 0.433

crypto4always Biesmans
because they chose at bad date to set the ratio. t...

This would always happen, this day would have been better for us, this day for us and so on. Snapshots are commonly used in the industry for setting prices. Using MC is a fair way to do it. Once you move onto what tech etc people have, it becomes very subjective and everybody will feel they bring the most to the table. The only real other alternative would be to bring in an M&A consultant to value both the market share, tech, team etc. but that a) drags out the process b) add huge cost to the process

Justin Glass
Or we can just vote no.

Of course. I still strongly believe there is something bigger in the works and you may regret a no vote.

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