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that whole section about takeover is just fundamentally false

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Jon - Will never DM you
that whole section about takeover is just fundamen...

Half of the paper is nonsense and fundamentally false. Personally I consider snet to be a sinking ship and imo it's foolish to believe snet stands a chance alone against big tech for the race to AGI for a variety of reasons. As much as i don't want to merge with agix truth is that united we just might a chance and opencog can shine

Degen Against The Machine
Half of the paper is nonsense and fundamentally fa...

It's not a now or never sunshine, despite wat ur told. Vote #no Renegotiate!

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Degen Against The Machine
Renegotiate what exactly

its his imaginary renegotiation - ive tried to explain but… deaf ears

Degen Against The Machine
Renegotiate what exactly

All aspects of the merger, with community involvement in stead of a centralised approach

Jon - Will never DM you
its his imaginary renegotiation - ive tried to exp...

Why exactly @Physix1 can there NEVER be a renegotiation?

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Mowzzza
Why exactly @Physix1 can there NEVER be a renegoti...

i wouldnt say “never”, only that i think leading people to believe a no vote will lead to renegotiate, gives them an imaginary path that may lead them ot regret their decision

Jon - Will never DM you
i wouldnt say “never”, only that i think leading p...

If the vote was no, I think there would still be appetite for a merger

Mowzzza
If the vote was no, I think there would still be a...

you think that, thats fine - i just prefer to counter it when you say so, because i suspect strongly that is not the case - and people should be aware of that

Degen Against The Machine
Half of the paper is nonsense and fundamentally fa...

Any evidence or in depth analysis to fundament of your personal opinion? It would be very enlightening to have actual arguments supporting your views. Thanks in advance.

Jon - Will never DM you
you think that, thats fine - i just prefer to coun...

Big tech will still be ahead, a threat. We will still always be stronger together .. It would be natural to head into a renegotiation.

Mowzzza
Big tech will still be ahead, a threat. We will st...

non the less - these were the terms that were agreed, because other terms were not

Jon - Will never DM you
non the less - these were the terms that were agre...

These terms were agreed by a few and punished the snet + ocean holders

Mowzzza
These terms were agreed by a few and punished the ...

and if the commnunity decides against it - would seem we are done with the plan 🙂

Jon - Will never DM you
and if the commnunity decides against it - would s...

Then it seems your motivations have not been publicly declared and it appears you are ONLY interested in THIS merger ..

Jon - Will never DM you
and if the commnunity decides against it - would s...

The decision against would be completely down to the ratio. Since everyone involved is perfectly happy with market-cap as the basis for ratios, let's revisit when SNET is 2x of FET, I am sure it will pass 99% with the FET community when they take a 50% slash.

Jon - Will never DM you
and if the commnunity decides against it - would s...

I definitely think some version of this plan is a great idea… We’re just not at that great idea right yet… I think we could have open discussions and a series of iterative votes for a period of 30 to 45 days and we could really get this squared away

Jon - Will never DM you
but we live in the real world of the vote happenin...

Well, a “no” vote would actually just mean that we could look at it and present another option a few weeks or a month down the road

Jon - Will never DM you
and if the commnunity decides against it - would s...

And that is perfectly OK. No need for FOMO here. SNET is fine, plans are on the run. We have a great team and years of intellectual and technical expertise ahead from current bigtech options according to our beloved @bengoertzel . If the team.keeps rowing sooner than later we will see Snet taking over AI space

Nicholas Black (assume Everyone is a scammer)
Well, a “no” vote would actually just mean that we...

there is an assumption that ocean and fetch wont watch all this unfold and say… better off without those “NOers” 😉

Mowzzza
They NEED what we are developing

they WANT to help in the race to ASI - they have their own products which dont NEED ours

Jon - Will never DM you
there is an assumption that ocean and fetch wont w...

Again, and that is fine. No worse place to be than somewhere where your supposed fellow mergers think that about us..

Jon - Will never DM you
they WANT to help in the race to ASI - they have t...

If they want AGI, then they do. It's clear from the 99% vote Fetch is only interested in being the majority

Mowzzza
They NEED what we are developing

Nobody needs what you're developing. By the time you acquire the funds and scale it up, someone's AI will have already invented it. Wait 2 years and see how many other start ups are out there doing the same

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Mowzzza
They NEED what we are developing

Also agix still has no product or utility 7 years post ico and a pretty terrible track record. What exactly is it that I need that snet has to offer. For all I know and until proven otherwise opencog is just another empty promise that might one day come into fruition

Mowzzza
Why the 99.8% yes vote then 🤣

because they're taking a lion's share of the SNET ecosystem for free thanks to an early bull market pump.

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Mowzzza
Why the 99.8% yes vote then 🤣

Fetch didn't solely vote abou merging with agix don't forget that

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Mowzzza
99.8% 🤣😂🤡

Yes 99.8% of fetch wants to merge with ocean

Degen Against The Machine
Fetch didn't solely vote abou merging with agix do...

yeah, they're getting handed the lion's share of OCEAN as well thanks to "pumping 1st"

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H m
yeah, they're getting handed the lion's share of O...

At least we get a 1:1 conversion as ocean stakers

Degen Against The Machine
At least we get a 1:1 conversion as ocean stakers

ocean's conversion rate is worse than AGIX's - and holders had no vote

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H m
ocean's conversion rate is worse than AGIX's - and...

Oh it's really not we get 2.4X of our staked tokens

Degen Against The Machine
Oh it's really not we get 2.4X of our staked token...

ahh... so if you had 1,000,000 you end up with 2.4 million?

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Degen Against The Machine
Yea but half are locked for 4y

sounds like a great deal for Ocean holders

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H m
sounds like a great deal for Ocean holders

Holders are rekt stakers get rewarded

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