Doesn'T the fact that those two or three nodes pointing

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Doesn'T the fact that those two or three nodes pointing

at a single state channel are still interacting with the rest of the hypergraph network mean that it is not centralized?

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27.04.2022

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Hypergoombah
If you'd stop avoiding the bft questions I have as...

That's what the rest of the nodes in the network are for if those two or three nides become malicious actors in your Byzantine fault tolerance hypothetical.

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Hypergoombah

State Channels can run x amount of transactions while only having to send consensus to global finality once per snapshot.

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Hypergoombah

KK
That's what the rest of the nodes in the network a...

You don't understand how the network works mate. You need to do more research before ebutting into discussions

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Hypergoombah
You don't understand how the network works mate. ...

Oh, well please excuse me nobel sir for being involved in the conversation and trying to interact with other users and learn about the ecosystem I'm heavily invested in. Sorry to offend your sensitivities.

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Levi Fishman

Sounds like you are saying that DAG nodes should provide bandwidth to all channels as a way to keep it decentralized.

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Hypergoombah

KK
Oh, well please excuse me nobel sir for being invo...

Your first reply to me was trying to correct me for saying that the scenario brought up would be a Centralized state channel.

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Hypergoombah

Levi Fishman
Sounds like you are saying that DAG nodes should p...

That isn't necessary.

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KK Автор вопроса

Levi Fishman
Sounds like you are saying that DAG nodes should p...

I mean sure maybe. It just seems like even if I point my nodes at a single state Channel and those are the only nodes used by that state Channel, the fact that those nodes are still interacting with the rest of the thousands of nodes on the network prevents true "centralization."

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Hypergoombah
Your first reply to me was trying to correct me fo...

And yes, I still disagree that it is.

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Hypergoombah

KK
I mean sure maybe. It just seems like even if I po...

Like I said before, the global consensus only know the one state provided by that state channel nodes each snapshot. There could be hundreds of thousands of transactions that happen within the state channel that don't manifest on the global consensus other than the state Channel nodes saying "hey all these transactions happened since last snap shot" If all the nodes in agreement from the state channel are from the same entity, they could be agreeing on false transactions, and we have a byzantine attack.

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Hypergoombah

KK
And yes, I still disagree that it is.

Wlel you're wrong, and it's because you don't understand how the network and state channels operate.

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KK Автор вопроса

Hypergoombah
Wlel you're wrong, and it's because you don't unde...

That's what you want to believe, you're welcome to your opinion.

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Hypergoombah

KK
That's what you want to believe, you're welcome to...

Well it's out there for everyone to see when you are incorrectly stating state channel consensus to global consensus.

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Hypergoombah
Well it's out there for everyone to see when you ...

The fact that state Channel consensus and Global consensus exist and that state Channel consensus is subordinate to Global consensus means it's not possible for real centralization to exist. No?

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Hypergoombah

KK
The fact that state Channel consensus and Global c...

I've explained it already why your assumption is wrong.

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Hypergoombah

KK
The fact that state Channel consensus and Global c...

This is not a fact. Yet you present it as one. This is your issue.

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