You spread fud here all the time, then go publish

Telos bullish stuff everywhere else. Seriously. whats your goal?

I'd like to see EOS get fixed...thats why I'm here. And while it may be FUD to you (because you're doing just fine with the current status quo) many others around these parts aren't just fine watching this chain be mismanaged, and misled.

go on a 1 on 1 with ENF and BPs to get your answers, or share with them a google docs with your concerns, stop spreading the same fud here every day. seriously... fucking take a break

So talking can fix the chain ?

no breaks when one is driven by principles and doing what is right. Talking to the ENF and current top 21 BPs is complete waste of time for reasons I've already outlined.

nope, only token holders can, and the only way token holders will act is if they hear all sides of the story..you're hearing mine.

I don't think there is going to be a change with anything. There is no fixing EOS. What do you expect to change if those who can make a change have nothing to gain and all to lose ?

this makes no sense. If BPs control the direction, you should enter dialogue with them. Not EOS chat. Make sure ENF Board members are aware of your concerns and communicate them to ENF. Talking here and mentionning your concerns once its fine, but populating the chat with the same things everyday is what is killing the community's morale. You are for sure affecting negatively the price of EOS by keeping constant drama in this chat. Please change the way you contribute to this ecosystem, because you have only hurt it so far.

Well there is hope. Currently less that 20% of tokens are voting for BPs. If more tokens vote for new BPs, ethical ones, who align with the values of community first, then we can put in a new top 21, that will properly hold the ENF/Yves to account.

You’re insinuating that we currently aren’t holding him to account.

omg you're literally not reading what I'm writing. the top 21 are captured...you helped make it so (EOS Nation at least), and they don't care what we say or think bc they don't need to. They have all the votes in their little club. If more tokens voted, replaced the garbage top 21 BPs, then maybe there would be an opportunity to reach out. I'm talking to token holders hopefully who might finally self custody and participate in voting...change the status quo, "course correct" from the path we're on.

You’re reaching out right now and people are listening. If you had concerns worth conveying to the larger group, we’d be doing so.

concerns have been written...we went over a few of them last night and this one kinda sums it up: This goes back to my questions with the ENV. One of the primary concerns I have with the ENV/ENF is that non-profits are still able to make investments in ways that go back to token holders, but now a small subsection of the controlling group of ENF has created a non-transparent, non-independent entity that is designed to profit off of token inflation, giving the upside to individuals as opposed to the community. When asked, Yves wouldn’t even disclose the names of those entities, let alone the process by which they were selected as the best investment managers. This is a problem...it should be something all EOS token holders seek to get resolved.

Yes, they were heard. No one’s as concerned as you are at this very moment in time. That may change as time moves on.

Like I said , I have no problem hearing your story and questions. It makes sense. But I don't agree with b1 did EOS a favour by doing nothing. You give b1 all the benefit of doubt and always "assume" nice intentions and ENF becomes the bad guy when everything they do is on-chain but the reports are not satisfactory to you or give time for said reports to come out. As for the BP situation I guess there is no changing that and it's DPOS. Non influential plebs don't get a voice.

no one is as vocal as I am...not necessarily concerned.

No one’s figured out how yet to change the BP situation - but I’d at least like to think there’s experimenting into how we realign expectations and augment what exists (eg theough DAO software and non-stake weighted processes taking more of an active role in leadership).

the only favour B1 did by doing "nothing" was keeping EOS as a security. That being said they TOTALLY could have done more. I am in complete agreement that many balls have been dropped by B1...I'm not excusing all of their inaction over the past number of years. My tone towards B1 however has always been we can't change the past only our future, and I think EOS would've been better off with a leader that didn't work so hard to push B1 away vs finding ways to collaborate. For the ENF, ya I'm critical when they mint 68M EOS and not tell us as the broader community...damn straight I'm going to bring that up aggressively bc it was complete bs. Now I'm seeing similar moves with the ENV...so again here I am...I've been otherwise quiet here for some time. So its not like my ENF complaints are non-stop and unwarranted. I'm responding to what I see when it happens, nothing more.

In fact, the Asian community, including China and South Korea, is also concerned about these issues. However, due to language barriers, they may not be able to actively participate in these discussions. If you examine the discussions in the Korean and Chinese communities, you will notice a lack of understanding around ENF behavior. I believe this is due to a lack of transparency.

I’m Chinese

FWIW I do consider you and Greymass to be one of the good BPs...I just don't think you have nearly enough sway to really change things, which includes really holding Yves to account.

this is unfortunate...we would be much stronger if globally united. This was one of the dreams of Eden...which also has been deliberately hamstrung by current leadership.

I’m pretty confident if something terrible happens, I’d be able to raise enough of a fuss to make a significant impact and effect change.

ya but I imagine yves uses compartmentalization effectively and likely knows you well enough to ensure you hear what he wants you to hear.

Your this accusation killed the discussion..

I talk to other BPs directly. We probably all hear what he wants us to hear, but it’s not going to be compartmentalized for long.

typo...what do you mean?

probably yes. My guess is EOS Nation and EOS Asia are at the center of it all.

It’s speculation like this that makes it hard to take you seriously.

like I'm the only one that speculates around here...lol

its not without some evidence btw...not just empty words.

No, you’re just one of the people who I honestly try to take seriously 😅

lmao...one of the few 😂

and you know how I felt about Yves a long way back. I took your advise and sincerely gave him a chance. Actions persisted and here we are again.

Well I mean it’s hard to take most of the anonymous users in here speculating seriously. That and I’ve spent enough time with you in the past to have a prior relationship and know you’re a real human 😂

that I am :) an emotional one at that from time to time 😂

Does Anchor Wallet have no team in the Chinese area?😂

I was sad you gave up. Honestly last night when you said something to the effect of “I would have loved to be given the chance to show transparency” I couldn’t help but wish you were in a position to do that with the ENF.

No, we unfortunately don’t really have a presence in non-English speaking communities.

I think you need a Chinese to teach Chinese users how to use Anchor, because your wallet 1,）there is no complete Chinese version 2, ）which is different from the wallet operation commonly used by Chinese users, such as Tp.

We’re taking steps to make that happen. Not too long ago we added support in the mobile versions for Chinese, the next generation desktop version has this planned, the new website we’ve been designing for Anchor will be in Chinese alongside our user support, and everything we’ve done with Wharf (the SDKs we’ve been working on) will have Chinese documentation and user interfaces. Anchor though unfortunately has taken a back seat to Wharf, so progress is slower than normal. We have a contract to build Wharf and we need to honor that, where as Anchor is just a project we build without any commitment. Anchor is also mostly unfunded work, so we have to focus on the funded stuff to be able to afford to work on it right now 😅

And to be clear, it’s not “just Chinese”. We’re planning many languages for all this work. I wrote it that way just to address that specific comment.

Yeah，Maybe you can cooperate with EOS Support to better promote the ecological development of EOS, my personal opinion.

We share some direct lines of communication with them, though I agree we could work more closely with them! They’ve proven a valuable ally

I also often participate in the Chinese area giveaway show of EOS Support. It is found that in many EOS ecosystems. need to use Anchor. They will explain. I think that's the best way for you not to have enough money to solve this problem right now.

All project owners interested in offering the EOS Support Direct Chat Widget (with EOS News Feeds and 24/7 Human Support) and/or who like to join EOS Respect are welcome to send an eMail request to contact@eossupport.io. Here you can see how the EOS Support Direct Chat widget looks like on the projects/websites that have integrated it: https://help.eossupport.io/en/articles/5565683-how-to-get-eos-support-from-a-real-person

So you are declaring war?

huh? where do you see any indication of a declaration of war? I'm voicing my concerns, and opinions. Do I like how the top 21 are currently being selected/orchestrated, 100% no I do not. Would I like to see change here, which will ideally result in change to how the ENF is being overseen, yup definitely.

you are a hundred percent right. It is conerning