How to fix manjaro path for Dart SDK ?

Prince Gautam
for development purposes one needs a "install once...

I've installed arch once years ago, and to this day I never had to do more than pacman -Syu every few weeks (always checking the official archlinux site before, to make sure it's safe to update)

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08.10.2023

demon with L
i use debian testing, it breaks some shit sometime...

It's almost as if it was meant to be used for testing

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08.10.2023

demon with L

Martin Rys
It's almost as if it was meant to be used for test...

crazy, right?

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08.10.2023

Prince Gautam

Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
People don't care about OS anymore. Just build you...

1. if they didnt care about OSes they wouldn't be replacing windows with gnu/linux in the first place, like most of the people here 2. why waste money on aws

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08.10.2023

Prince Gautam
for development purposes one needs a "install once...

For dev purposes you use bleeding edge shit to make sure you're the one running into issues, not your users.

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08.10.2023

Prince Gautam

Martin Rys
For dev purposes you use bleeding edge shit to mak...

for testing environment you need bleeding edge shit, not for the development environment

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08.10.2023

demon with L
crazy, right?

You'd think so with the amount of people claiming "testing" is just a bit more up to date Debian and is completely fine to use for normal usage.

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08.10.2023

Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

demon with L
crazy, right?

Ubuntu is always a snapshot of Debian Sid. They did not base it on Testing. Is Ubuntu user crazy? I would say yes, because they trust distro that is "based" (always contain "bad") on experimental Debian

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08.10.2023

Raptor Blue Bear

Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
Ubuntu is always a snapshot of Debian Sid. They di...

It's true technically that Ubuntu LTS is based on a snapshot of Debian Testing whereas other Ubuntu releases are based on Debian Unstable. However, this is a simplistic way of looking at it. It mustn't be forgotten that Debian Stable, too, comes originally from Debian Unstable, and Debian Stable is a very polished final product - so the fact that something spent time in Debian Unstable earlier in its life cycle is not an indication of its quality in the final release. After Ubuntu branches off the packages it imports from Debian, Ubuntu and Debian then independently continue the process of fixing and tracking bugs and getting packages ready for release, following their own separate processes and timelines. In the case of Ubuntu LTS, it branches off from Debian at a later stage in Debian's process: once Debian's branched it off into Debian Testing - implying Ubuntu will benefit from more of Debian's own testing and bug fixing prior to the point at which Ubuntu's process starts. The primary way in which Ubuntu will benefit is reduced effort getting the packages ready for release. Ubuntu has different release goals and requirements to Debian which indicates that an Ubuntu LTS won't necessarily be equivalent to a Debian Stable. Another thing to consider is the distinction Ubuntu makes between packages it supports officially (eg main/restricted) and packages it provides only "community support" for (eg universe/multiverse). The packages in the latter will be modified relatively little after the import from Debian. And lastly, there are quite a few packages in Ubuntu that are not sourced from Debian at all, for commercial or licensing reasons or because they are Ubuntu specific.

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Benoist

Raptor Blue Bear
It's true technically that Ubuntu LTS is based on ...

tldr ;)

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08.10.2023

Raptor Blue Bear

Benoist
tldr ;)

Debian Stable, too, comes originally from Debian Unstable

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08.10.2023

Alexander Gnatyuk

Holmes
I've installed arch once years ago, and to this da...

And if you had a better distro you wouldn't have to check if update is safe. It must always be safe. Otherwise what's the point of distro developers? Might as well replace them with scripts.

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08.10.2023

Alexander Gnatyuk
And if you had a better distro you wouldn't have t...

I don't particularly mind checking the official page, it contains interesting information and takes less than a min, but I'd love to hear of a distro that is as stable as arch while allowing its users to have a rolling release with the newest version of all the packages

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08.10.2023

Holmes
I don't particularly mind checking the official pa...

You don't even have to check the news, until the upgrade fails to start.

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08.10.2023

Martin Rys
You don't even have to check the news, until the u...

using informant package

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08.10.2023

Martin Rys
You don't even have to check the news, until the u...

I've only run into it a couple of times so far, but some times packages will break if you update and it's worth to wait a bit for it to be fixed instead of having to manually fix it

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Everything marked as 'manual intervention' does not fix itself, so waiting won't help you there

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08.10.2023

Martin Rys
Everything marked as 'manual intervention' does no...

I'm talking about problems, I think it was this year but the last one was with pulse audio, it was fixed after a few days

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08.10.2023

Vim

Alexander Gnatyuk
And if you had a better distro you wouldn't have t...

To be fair, testing to the rigor of Debian or CentOS takes a lot of time and effort. Arch's primary goal meanwhile seems like it wants to be the first distro to release any package, and follow upstream releases as closely as possible. There will always be edge cases, and that's what the rigorous testing is for on Debian / CentOS. But even on a distro like Arch, you're already receiving the testing from the upstream developers as well. Not saying that I would run it on my machines — especially servers — but back when I ran it on my personal computer, it also ran more or less fine. Nowadays I use Debian on everything though, I don't have the time or desire to rice my personal systems anymore, and I share your mindset of not wanting to wonder whether this update will screw things up and keep me occupied with that for the rest of the day.

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08.10.2023

Alexander Gnatyuk

Holmes
I don't particularly mind checking the official pa...

stable and rolling is a contradiction in terms

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08.10.2023

MG

Prince Gautam
for development purposes one needs a "install once...

So, you suggest not to use Arch for development, running IDE, etc...? Debian is the only choice?

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08.10.2023

MG
So, you suggest not to use Arch for development, r...

the exact opposite

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08.10.2023

Vim

MG
So, you suggest not to use Arch for development, r...

Personally, I would consider Fedora a good option for that. Or maybe even MacOS, there's MacBooks everywhere at developer conferences. Both of them have similar goals — be a reasonably up-to-date turnkey solution, that gives the niceties of Linux but without all the maintenance.

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08.10.2023

MG

Muflone
the exact opposite

Looks like he suggested Debian. Did I misunderstand?

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08.10.2023

MG
Looks like he suggested Debian. Did I misunderstan...

no, you haven't misunderstood it's only a very poor advice and he's confusing development with release

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08.10.2023

Prince Gautam

MG
So, you suggest not to use Arch for development, r...

do you want to waste your time configuring stuff that you dont need to configure in other stable distros - yes. run arch.

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08.10.2023

Muflone · Accepted Answer